Sam and Ryan talk about APIs that empower developers, even if it means giving them enough freedom to make mistakes. They also talk about building a component with dynamic children in both Ember and React.
17:14 – Setting up tests in Gatsby, and why wiring up boilerplate code is not always bad
28:56 – React's children API, MDX, and template imports in Ember
39:17 – How extracting things in React feels compared to extracting things in Ember
42:30 – React's children, and constraints vs. flexibility
1:05:52 – API design, and letting someone feel the pain rather than telling them they can't do something