This week Sarah Drasner joins us to talk about her book Engineering Management for the Rest of Us and her experience leading engineering at Zillow, Microsoft, Netlify, and now Google.
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- Sarah Drasner on CSS Tricks
- Book: Engineering Management for the Rest of Us
- The Peter principle
- Accelerate: Building and Scaling High Performing Technology Organizations
- Dr. Nicole Forsgren
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(00:00) - This week on The Changelog
(01:09) - Sponsor: DevCycle
(03:59) - Start the show!
(07:22) - The OG post on CSS Tricks
(11:55) - Sarah's straight ine to here
(14:09) - The nerd part, lol
(20:13) - Challenging parts of writing this book
(24:28) - Trust is built in drops
(26:07) - Sponsor: Sentry
(30:16) - Values exercise
(32:07) - How do you give trust?
(34:22) - We have ways less data now
(40:52) - How do you IRL?
(42:54) - What about bottom up change?
(49:44) - Differeent tools for different scenarios
(54:43) - Sponsor: Rocky Linux
(57:16) - Doing 1:1s
(59:57) - Can't not and rules to follow
(1:01:21) - Solving techincal problems
(1:02:45) - Hands on in the weeds?
(1:04:16) - Things to avoid. Don't do this.
(1:07:22) - Dealing with self
(1:10:59) - When to say "no"
(1:16:29) - Sarah makes us blush!
(1:19:43) - Up next!