Episode 52: Making People Happy with UX Developer Jenell Pizarro

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The way an app is experienced by its users is one of its most important features and as a UI/UX developer or designer, catering to this need is about more than just being good at coding. Today on the show our guest is Jenell Pizarro who joins us to talk about some of the main things she is concerned with as a UX developer. We kick off the show with a discussion about the many job titles within UI and UX, the difference between these two categories, and how a UX developer differs from a UX designer. From there, we get into some of the main challenges that teams within the UI/UX niche face when working with clients. Often clients find bugs in an app in its beta phases or have different qualms about its functionality, and as a UX developer, navigating these in a way that is best for everybody can be quite a sensitive journey. We then zoom in on the topic of accessibility, highlighting the ethical obligation developers have to make their apps usable by people in all situations, even though stakeholders might have a different and more profit-driven set of motives. For Jenell, developers should put their foot down, and not forget the importance of soft skills such as empathy, because UX is about making people happy, whatever their background or situation looks like. Accessibility is also an issue that holds relevance amongst developers even before the client comes into the equation, and there are ways of coding that help keep readability a top priority in teams. Toward the end of the show, we get into the weeds of coding in JavaScript, sharing some pet peeves about index variable naming in loops and other best practices. As always, we wrap up with some awesome picks of the week so for all this and more, tune in today!

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Jenell’s journey into coding and how she fell into front end and UX development.
  • Job titles in the UI/UX space and perspectives on the difference between the two.
  • Diving deeper into the difference between a UX designer and a UX developer.
  • Challenges UX developers face at different stages of an app’s development.
  • How clients test apps in their beta phase and developers solve problems they find.
  • Perspectives on how to decide when an accessibility issue can no longer be ignored.
  • Struggles between accessibility ethics and the profit-focused priorities of stakeholders.
  • How important it is for developers to have soft skills like EQ and empathy.
  • The importance of making your code accessible to other developers too.
  • Readability issues in code such as how to write the index variable in a JavaScript loop.
  • Pet-peeves about best practices and language features of JavaScript.
  • This week’s top picks; games, TV shows, and books!


  • “That's my goal in life is to ensure that people forget that they're actually even using the application, because it becomes such a normal part of their life, that it just becomes second nature.” — @nellarro [0:01:43]
  • “It's a human right to be able to use the Internet. I feel as developers, we need to make sure that all humans can use the web, period.” — @nellarro [0:28:08]
  • “I think that's really important is making sure that your code is readable for an engineer to be able to look at your code and be like, ‘I get that. I see what's happening.’” — @nellarro [0:33:19]

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Special Guest: Jenell Pizarro.

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